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Keep the Conversation Civil

October 6th, 2009

civilMost artists know there is a huge distance between the idea of a thing and the reality of a thing. ArtPrize set out to bring the general public and the art world together to “reboot a conversation.” That conversation has begun, and as it moves forward we’d like to suggest some ground rules.

For those who believe ArtPrize is a shining success, please understand there are many who see success and room for improvement (I’m one of those people). ArtPrize welcomes criticism and ideas for how we can change. We want to listen to every idea and every criticism, even if we cannot–or choose not–to act on every one.

For artists who are critical of ArtPrize, who come from a world where critical dialogue about art is as important as the work itself. Please, understand there is a new audience listening. How you say something can overshadow the content of what you say.

Enter a critical conversation about the art. Enter a critical conversation about ArtPrize. But, please, keep it civil and thoughtful. That is the only kind of conversation that will move us forward.

Posted by Paul Moore in General

50 Responses to “Keep the Conversation Civil”

  1. Earle Swope says:

    Before I engage in any dialogue or criticism I would like to express my gratitude to the Artprize staff. Rick DeVos and company thought of everything and have put on a wonderful event. A world class infra-structure (painted Art Vans even) you people covered it all. I and my collaborator Amy Nack did not reach the top 100 but we had an incredible time and fell in love with Grand Rapids and Artprize. Fortunately we had the chance to thank Rick personally when he stopped by our venue, nicest billionaire I know (only one I know of course).

    Now a few thoughts…

    A week or two longer event would be wonderful to allow people more time, (especially weekends) to view all of the work.

    Please also allow us to know our final ranking. If you don’t want to make it public let us know individually. This information could be very helpful when searching for a venue next year.

    You speak of dialogue in art, how about giving all sides a voice? I have spoken with multiple artists who would like to see both a jurored and a public vote in Artprize next year, why not take it a step farther? For the inital round of voting give equal weight to the public, a blue ribbon panel of jurors and the artists themselves. Take the top (what ever number you want) from each group and place all of these in the finals category. This would give all art entities (viewers, experts and artists) a voice and would further serve to educate each of the other entities about each groups collective tastes. Multiple artists I have spoken to have also discussed categorizing art by type, which would also serve to educate the public about the various different forms of art (i.e. instalation v. performance v. sculpture, etc…)

    Now to close I thought I would put my art opinion where my mouth is and post my top 10. I would love to see other artists do the same and get a feel for difference/similarities between artists and the public.

    Earle

    Old Fed. Bldg.
    Rob Bliss- The 100,000 paper airplanes

    Adrienne Noelle Werge- For Such a Time as This: Remembering Vietnam (Rice helmets)

    Pascal Haudressy- Somewhere We Will Meet Again

    Danielle Roney- Cyber Tourism

    San Chez
    Collaboration Works! Immigrant Shadows: Tracing the Herders’ Legacy (mine and Amy’s)

    UICA
    Jason Hackenwerth- Ecstacy of the Scarlet Empress

    Heidi Kumao- Correspondence

    53 Commerce
    Diane Whitehead Lorick- Immured in the Rafters

    DeVos Place
    David Greenwood- Birdsong (your history/ you’re history)

    47 Commerce
    Young Kim
    Salt and Earth

    and tight in the running:
    Deborah Adams Doering, T. Mikey and Sun Kwak

  2. When you put art in the street it is going to be considered by pedestrians. That doesn’t make it “pedestrian” art.
    I love the idea that ArtPrize is as much of a push to redefine what public art is? Was the Airplane drop performance art? Is the rampent shilling by artisans diminish thier artistic contribution, or the skill and artestry of thier craft.
    The conversation is as interesting as most of the art.

  3. Dre says:

    I’m just wondering if it would be possible for the city to do better planning with their downtown road construction during an event like this. I’m not referring to the building construction, that’s inevitable. Artprize brought thousands downtown who never bother to venture down here. I live downtown myself and I’m certainly glad the building I live in has underground parking because the parking situation was an absolute nightmare.

    Logistically, it was pretty difficult to get to a lot of places. With streets like Cherry, Commerce, Weston, Ionia, etc. being closed, I think that REALLY hurt some artists and venues (one being Young Kim). I realize everything can’t be prevented, but this event was announced QUITE awhile ago, it would have been nice if the city could have done better planning if possible. I don’t know…just my two cents… :)

  4. Maja Vredevoogd says:

    Civility is part of intelligent dialogue, but even ArtPrize has been uncivil by your silence to many questions. Refusal to respond is just as uncivil as an incompetent outburst. Simply, a “We are not sure” or a “No” to questions with a legitimate reason (not a pc line) is better than silence. Dialogue is two way

  5. kate says:

    Bravo, Paul… well said. And congratulations on starting Art and Expression conversations everywhere.

    My hopes for the future:
    a SAG award, as mentioned above… perhaps from participating artists or juried or whatever

    a legitimate children’s vote… perhaps by ballot at the Children’s Museum, to keep these children interested and talking and debating. They’ve all been SO EXCITED to watch and help and participate. Let’s give them a voice.

  6. Paul Moore says:

    Maja,
    To what specific questions are you referring?

  7. Maja Vredevoogd says:

    And I really am happy to be a part of this. I never assumed to place in anything, but wish more artists were as dedicated to the event after not placing, or dealing with the inadequacies of ArtPrize this year. Like events closing early, what a frustration after climbing 6 flights of stairs, or only being open certain hours (while other have 24hr access & all the media hype) or voting problems. Or art world competing with craft world.

  8. Melody says:

    Will ArtPrize entries (all of them) still be available to view this Friday and Saturday? I have company coming from out of town to see it. I’d hate to find most entries have been packed up.

  9. Maja Vredevoogd says:

    Paul,
    I’ve emailed, posted over a half dozen times the question on artist knowing their votes. I have friends email me over and over asking me as well. Many of us artists would like to know, and many would not. Just because we did not make the top 25, 50, 75, or 100, does not mean we should not be able to find out as well. I worked hard for and every day during this event. ArtPrize keeps posting general numbers, top lists, but not giving individual or everyone else. What was the point of the Up/Down if we do not get the feedback (if we want to know).

    Are you deciding on it still? Or have outright decided that you are NOT releasing this information to the artists? Why? A legitimate answer. We all know that a person has this data & can access it. (see voting comparison of day to day with top voted with salt/clay art.) Are you waiting for ArtPrize to finish to release it? If not, a reasonable why not?

  10. Maja Vredevoogd says:

    Has anyone considered a peer Artist or Volunteer vote?

  11. Paul Moore says:

    Venues have agreed to remain open with all art on exhibition until 10PM this Saturday.

  12. Paul Moore says:

    Actual numbers of votes are confidential. We are in the process of determining a way for artists to understand where they ranked, (based on requests like this one) but have not reached a conclusion yet.

  13. Melody says:

    Great news. Thank you.

  14. Molly Gary says:

    We need to give the organizers time to respond. Can you imagine the pace they have been working at for so many weeks? It is a credit to them that they are open to feedback and have given many forums to receive constructive ideas for next year. How many public events ask for feedback so openly? I can’t think of any that I have been part of. Bravo ArtPrize for your open mind and willingness to make 2010 even better!

  15. Hey Paul, I understand it’s confidential for whatever reason, but it really would be nice to know how many votes were given in comparison to how many people I think viewed the work. Is there any way to reconsider sharing this confidential info with each respective artist?

  16. Lori says:

    I agree with Kate about the involvement of the kids. My 5-year-old wanted to vote and was a bit put out that he couldn’t. I volunteered at the Old Fed last night and there were tons of families coming through. The kids loved the event. It would be great for them to have their say in some fashion.

    I also think it would be nice to have the art displayed for a longer time.

    I did feel that the venue location had an impact on whether artists had a shot at the top 10. Obviously the more people who view the artwork, the more votes it’s likely to get. The artists off the beaten path didn’t have the same chance. I’m not sure how to remedy that, but it’s something I hope will be considered for the next time around.

  17. aj says:

    Good Luck dealing with all the opinions, Paul!

    After listening to all the squaballing i’ve decided that the artists need to take more responsibility in defining the success of their entry.
    I feel that my photo wall has been very successful( I don’t even know where I placed, nor do i care). My goal: help the heartside neighborhood define itself as a photographer’s destination…success: yes
    ArtPrize shook up my landlords enough to let me paint a wall (usually not allowed)… success: yup
    ArtPrize allowed me to get to know my neighbors more and photograph them..success: yessir
    ArtPrize allowed a situation to occur that allowed me to paint something that will last longer than the two week competition..success: yep
    ArtPrize created a critical mass of people to kick start a project focused on people..success: yes.

    So artists, just because you didn’t make the top ten, do you consider your piece successful? I’ll encourage artists to think more civically instead of selfishly for next year. ArtPrize is an opportunity for Massive Change. My overall feeling of ArtPrize is great. When I hear negative comments I wonder if professional artists have curated an audience of friends and supporters who have reinforced a social identity. In this new model, have grumpy artists failed to define audience as well as success? Is current artistic thought too temporal?
    ArtPrize, will you encourage more civic engagement as an alternative success to money? How will you advance the role of “venue” next year? That seems to be a big source of the bitchin’.

    sincerely,
    -ajpaschka

  18. Rebecca Malmquist says:

    I’m so grateful for ArtPrize! What an exciting venture! Thank you dearly!

    I also would have liked a longer viewing period (even with conceding that the pace of the city has been wonderful and to slow it down could adversely effect that) in an effort to have the voting reflect more closely the quality of the artwork itself. It was just too much work in too little of a time to make it possible to knowledgeably vote. It’s perhaps more telling of the power of media rather than the power of the artwork itself that the many in the top rankings received media attention. That is too bad in my opinion because it seems to undermine the vision of ArtPrize, from what I can tell.

    And somehow the hours of the venues needs to be tweaked. I spent the entire first weekend (joyfully) venturing out to look through the artwork but wasn’t able to finish. When I tried to go during the work week days, many places were closed to me until evening, when it really is impossible for me to go due to my schedule.

    While I imagine there will need to be some consideration on how to keep it honest/void of fraud, I also would like to see what children think (even though they don’t typically have legal ID under 16).

    I really LOVE that it was publicly voted, and that in general ArtPrize seemed to want to “let go” the control of deciding who/when/where/how and categorizing. That was exceptionally attractive to me.

  19. Rob VS says:

    To Rick and the entire ArtPrize staff, thank you so much for this event. What I like best, is that I believe this event will go a long way in helping to break the myopic stigma that many people have of Grand Rapids.

    My top recommendation for next year (as well as following years), is that you think carefully before giving too much weight to the suggestions of the most vocal critics. Don’t get me wrong, all criticisms are worth hearing out, but I’ve seen too many events ruined because the proprietors alienated the majority by catering to a vocal minority.

    I really hope that most artists see this event as less of contest, and more of a great opportunity to showcase their work.

  20. I suppose this is the best place to say this… My entry into Artprize has provided enormous intrinsic rewards, and it has even provided the potential for financial rewards in the future through the pursuit of new project opportunities. Thank you Artprize for providing the context / excuse.
    Also, to comment on an above post, not all entries that received media coverage actually received a significant number of votes due to media coverage. My piece, for example, had massive media exposure, and I wasn’t even in the top 100. Oh well. It was absolutely worth pursuing.

  21. Lionesssculptress says:

    Keep it free. It would be a completely different event if we had to buy a ticket.

  22. Thank you for a most amazing and stunning event. I’m pleased to say I was in the top 1262. I would also like to know how I ranked in the final count, both with votes received and what place I landed in the end.

    As to changes, one is more shuttle services to the outlying venues. I see some venues were quite a distance from a shuttle stop, thereby becoming inaccessible to some visitors.

    Another would be to allow cellphone identity as a registration ID as well as an email address. I think quite a few were disenfranchised by the limitation.

    After that, I suggest no other changes. Not one… well, more registration and information. How many artists knew when they registered in person, they were already preregistered? I didn’t and it was several confusing minutes before the registrar and I figured it out.

    The circus that made up this year’s event was a blast, and I’m wondering what kind of art methadone there is to come down from the high.

    I wear my white wrist band as a badge of honor. Thank you again.

  23. sketchdude says:

    It really meant a lot to me to be able to participate in an open competition for any artist who could score a place to show. It took guts to organize such a show. To me, it isn’t important who wins- the important thing is the buzz that a big spectacle creates.

    In a “radically open” competiton where the winner is chosen by a popular vote, there is no room for a confidential vote tally. Part of the rational for having a public vote in the first place is to give the artists more feedback, so post the vote tallys. Allow each artist to learn how many up votes, and how many down votes. Failure to do this makes the results look suspicious, and the whole event loses credibility.

  24. Amy Wilson says:

    Thank you so much to artprize for a wonderful experience and thank you to UICA and the Old Federal Building for hosting Catherine Herrman and DITA. We were only able to perform the first 6 days of artprize due to scheduling conflicts but it was an amazing experience. And to think, most of Grand Rapids has never experienced modern dance before, most people wouldn’t even consider modern dance in an art competition. But we had crowds in to watch us for every performance (17 of them in 6 days) and we thought we would be performing for 10-15 people tops. During the first weekend we had crowds of 75 or more!

    It was amazing and I agree with John, Grand Rapids is going to need “art methadone” once this is all over.

    Thanks!

  25. shelly says:

    The problem I see with the “conversation” is that there seems to be very little room for a person to both be a fan and supporter of ArtPrize AND to have some constructive criticism.

    I’m not saying this about the organizers and people who work on/for ArtPrize as they have been very willing to at least listen. I’m talking about it’s vocal supporters who get very angry if you mention any criticism. If you’re not 100% for ArtPrize then you must be 100% against it…and can’t you see what it has done for our community?!

    Yes. Of course I can see that. I still have some ideas for how it could be more sensitive to the existing and thriving art community that maybe did not need rebooting.

    Supporters–Please give some room to some other ideas. The organizers of ArtPrize are.

  26. Dick Buist says:

    I was totally blown away by the whole experience!
    On the first Saturday I was more excited than a kid on Christmas morning – wanting to spend the whole day at ArtPrize!!

  27. dave vanos says:

    I also would like to know the full results. You say you dont really want to give out exact numbers, well that’s fair, why not give the results in percentiles? “Todd Painter finished in the Top 45% with 80% positive votes,” or something like that? It would just be really nice to actually have an answer when someone asks “So how did you do in Artprize?” That’s not a question that should be annoying, but with no answer to give, it is incredibly annoying.

    The only other criticism I have would be with the main page set up. Instead of showing only the top 25/50/100 why not have a dynamic box with a random artist, that changes with every visit? This would give everyone a chance to get front page exposure, even if it is for a milisecond. Also, a box with similar artists to your previous vote would be nifty. These sort of things are used on alot of sites, like ebay for instance, and they do help you find things you wouldn’t have found on your own.

    Other than that, it was alot of fun to participate in artprize this year! thanks for the opportunity :)

  28. Alex says:

    Well, it is almost over and what has been the most interesting is that both sides of the equation want the other to be like them. Everybody thinks they are right and the other wrong. Is this communication or a bunch of egos trying to outposture each other? So far I have seen egos. If there is to be communication then the first rule is leave your ego at the door and speak from your heart. If that is wrong then I am not an artist and don’t want to be. I would rather be an engineer. An engineer builds from rules and laws of nature and physics. Alice in Wonderland was written by a mathematical genius and the entire story can be written as a formula in differential calculus. Ahhh now that is ART. or is it????

  29. c a wills says:

    Please…categories next year. Smaller offerings, like the beautifully executed laminated leaf, the Row-Row-Row-Your-Boat, the DRAGONS!! Yes!! – competing with many others of an immense scale (the Table and Chairs/ Nessie on the Grand/Imagine That), it’s difficult to have a “comparison” for decisions. Please. I suppose that means lesser prizes? Or one “Top Prize” of a $$$$$$ dollar amount, followed by the categories each with lesser amounts? Will Winner(s)2009 be excluded from 2010+?

  30. Am I guilty? I kind of feel responsible since it seems I’m posting like every five minutes. I’m certainly not trying to stir things up. Seriously, I haven’t had a normal conversation in about four months. It feels good to talk! But regardless, I think we should all simply agree not to be offended by what others say. Everyone’s viewpoint is valid. If we can’t handle that and accept what other people have to say, we shouldn’t punish ourselves by participating. Whoever decides to continue the conversation ought to accept that others have differing points of view. And if any of us want to trash talk someone else, why don’t we all agree to keep it on our own personal blogs (if the personal attacks must be made at all).

  31. Ellen S. B. says:

    This has made me be so proud to have grown up in GR and the forward thinking to try out this process of leaving the choice up to the public. The top ten contenders are real art contenders and I’ve only seen this from a far distance.

    I don’t know all the frustrations that have occurred, but I’m sure there were plenty as there would be with a first run of a big show like this. I have to take my hat off to Rick DeVos and collaborators for making this thing a reality. It’s fostered a lot of discussion, and I especially was interested in one of the lunch bag talks a question about that there was so little “real art” out there…it seems that the need for a juried show doesn’t go away lightly and it has always been the thought that educated artists “know” art better than anyone else.

    I beg to differ.

    I think the top ten contenders reflect a lot of thought, though I am sorry Young Kim didn’t make it. Just because people haven’t spent 12, 20, 30 years discussing “art” dosen’t mean that they can’t make meaningful choices. I think the public choosing was the most innovative thing going for this event, outside of the prize money. And I hope that the organizars don’t ruin the freshness of this concept with some junked up concoction of juried and public choice next year.

    That’s it.

    Ellen S.B.

  32. Neil says:

    Alex, you say

    “So far I have seen egos. If there is to be communication then the first rule is leave your ego at the door and speak from your heart. If that is wrong then I am not an artist and don’t want to be.”

    wow. From my 46 years on this planet…Art is all about Ego. Art IS Communication.

    You have to have one (Ego) to
    “put yourself(creation) out there” naked and subject to all kinds of comments and judgements and decisions and thoughts of others.

    If one can’t hack that kind of stress, move over and get out of the way and do something else. Those of us with the intestinal fortitude will keep plugging away.

    No, I did not enter the Artprize contest…this time. I preferred to observe and see if it is for me.I do not put my work anyplace that will have me, I put it where I want to, when I want to.

    Hope you decide to be an artist, we need your spirit.

    Like your comment on math. math is art too.Look at fractals!

    -Neil

  33. Jason says:

    Paul,

    If no one is allowed to see the voting results, how do we know if the people in the top 10 really made the top 10? Top 25, etc. You are asking us to just take your word for it. I can’t wait to try this approach during the next election.

  34. Wow, I just read Tracking Top Artists (105 comments). Yikes, people. Can we say, “Artprize Trolls”? Maybe that thread should be closed somehow.

  35. Jason says:

    That thread seems to be getting ugly.

  36. Jordana Dickinson says:

    Neil, I like your comment about putting yourself out there. This is the first time I had the guts to show my work. My venue asked if I sell my paintings and I said Babysteps now, letting my work out of my living room is like sending the child off to school the first time. This was a big deal for me. There is a song by Wilco that says once you finished your painting it’s no longer yours it belongs to everyone. I am just getting used to that. I consider Artprize a huge success and I have already decided to enter next year. In fact I am already working on my entry.

  37. Armin says:

    It’s been an amazing experience, as an artist and teacher I have not talked to so many people about some many factors of art. It’s opened the eyes and minds of many who rarely if ever thought about art. Yes, there are many things the could be learned and done more effectively but let leave that for another time let’s just feel good and celebrate what ArtPrize has given GR, Michigan and even to some extent the “art world”

  38. Alex says:

    Neil, great comments, but my reference to ego is based on the “inflated sense of self worth” as defined in modern English rather than Freud’s concept. I love stress and am a slave to it at times. I made my piece the day before I hung it. If I made it in advance I would never have entered it since I would have talked my way out of it for not being as good as I want. Don’t tell anyone I said that. I actually made it to fit the title which I created months before.

  39. Mark says:

    To those artists who insist on knowing how you ranked, perhaps the notion of such a large “prize” has momentarily blinded you from seeing the true value of this art event. Do you want to know how your work was ranked by your friends and family, or by popular vote, or by art professionals? The desire for knowing where you “rank” may be taking you completely off track from your reasons for making (or experiencing) art in the first place. A popular voting mechanism has its value as a tool giving everyone the power to express oneself about a given piece of artwork, but as a tool for picking the best/most original artwork, it is deeply flawed, and ultimately gives undue weight to a single piece of art. The prize should be seen for what it is; a significant carrot successfully cultivated to attract artists and viewers to Grand Rapids. Rather than allowing ourselves to be misdirected by prizes and rankings wouldn’t it be better to keep the dialogue open ended, and to try to end on a positive chord celebrating the wonderful attributes that this event had by unveiling so much art (and so many artists) to so many viewers—and hopefully inspiring future creativity in all of us?

  40. Art is not your enemy. The GRAM is not your enemy. Art Galleries are not your enemy. Art Forum Magazine is not your enemy. MoMa is not your enemy. A Art Critic is not your enemy. Why all the spite?

  41. Newman says:

    Rather than a single prize, I would suggest taking a page from the top film festivals (Cannes, Toronto, Sundance, etc.) and present more than one award. I would suggest dividing the prize among a People’s Choice (current popular vote), an International Award (web-based public vote) and a Peer Award (each artist gets one vote only). Give the most weight to the People’s Choice if you must; it would cool to see whether West Michigan’s opinion diverges from these other constituencies – THAT would foster discussion, I’m certain.

  42. Alex says:

    Richard, as in Dostoevsky’s ‘Underground Man’ ?

  43. Jordana Dickinson says:

    Mark, knowing where we rank will let us know how well our art was received. It would help us in preparing for next years entry. For example if I only received 10 votes I am not going to enter a standard painting. I would do something on a larger scale. However, if I had a decent amount of votes maybe I’d give it another shot with my next painting. I still enjoyed the experience and I love the dialogue it has created.

  44. Armin Mersmann says:

    Mark, I understand what you’re saying in a pure artistic sense unfortunately that’s not realistic. We all have reasons to do make art, but exhibiting is on most of our radar. We express our ideas, thoughts, feelings, our likes, dislikes but not in a vacuum we need to share this with others. And for that we need a venue and a good one; we need to be conscious and proactive in the “business of art”.

    The vote count will give us important data, about the venues, about flow patterns the “up and down votes” and so on. If I’m an abstract artist what was the best venue for that genre, if I am conceptual what was the best venue, (ok UICA) if I’m a realist, 3D, 2D and so on. If I am to succeed as an artist I need to take advantage of any information that helps me make future decisions in the business side of my art. (Not the creative side, that a different story) Sure I’m an artist and I express myself through my art but I’m not naïve… it’s also my profession. Something ArtPrize should know.

    Armin

  45. dave vanos says:

    I agree with Jordana, sorry Mark… I don’t want to know how well I did so that I can gloat or pout. I would like to know so that I can better plot out next years entry. We should at the very least get a voters graph like Young Kims, who is the only artist lucky enough to get a detailed idea of how his piece did throughout the competition. I dont particularly care about exact numbers, but I do think its a little odd to have ten ranked winners and just toss everyone else in last place…

  46. Mark says:

    Jordana, I liked your last sentence best, about enjoying the experience and loving the dialogue that was created. But when you say that knowing how well your work was, or wasn’t, received, (by a ranking system made up of popular votes) is going to dictate what you’re going to make next time, it seems to me like a poor substitute for developing your own criteria for quality and being able to make work that continually lives up to standards you’ve set for yourself, regardless of public sentiment. Sure, you may not win $250,000 with that philosophy, but chances are better that you will gain something even more valuable over time,(something nobody can give or take away from you): Your own true sense of self-worth.

  47. Rebecca says:

    I am one of the participating artists, and I just wanted to comment that I am not particularly interested in where I ranked, how many votes, how many ups or downs. Not out of fear factor, certainly not. Out of humbleness and belief that my painting WAS very well received, enjoyed and appreciated. I do believe in my art, after all, otherwise I would not be doing it day after day even with hardly earning a cent. If I had any fear that my venue perhaps did not get enough “traffic,” I did not even need to express it: my venue contacted me to say that thousands were pouring through and giving compliments, that an art teacher brought all of her students to look at it. It is nice to hear the feedback, especially when one cannot attend. I am not an artist, however, who paints what I think the public will like. I paint what I love, what I find beautiful, and I believe the general public tends to like beautiful things which demonstrate a high caliber of skill and vision. The winning piece demonstrated this (I had been rooting for his piece from the very beginning). I don’t look at the results and say, “okay, bigger next year. or something more environmental. or more colorful” I will continue painting what I believe in, and should I look next year at ArtPrize as a good choice for one of my paintings, I might participate. In the meantime, I would need to see what kind of changes would be made to the original before deciding.

    Having categories is obviously a good change to make. But being careful. Even in the world of painting alone it is practically impossible to judge a conceptual painter against a photorealist, an academic against a naturalist, or an impressionist against a reductivist. So there will always be difficulties, or insightful discourse to use a better term. And I think that the quality of this discourse is bound to improve as people go out to see art more and more. Simple categories like 2D, 3D, video, installation, digital are enough. As the project grows, the discussion within each category will grow, in a more fruitful way.

    There has also been some criticism about the lack of a jury, or venues lacking valid professional art jury experience. I never had a problem with this; a lot of gallerists open up galleries simply because they love art, and it often takes them a long time to come up with a clear mission statement about what it is exactly that they like. This first time was an experiment for many of the venue committees, and I think they put their best efforts forward in choosing. Now that all of the art has gone up, and the venues have seen the complexity within the diversity in art that is out there, they too have gained experience and knowledge that they will apply next year.

    The great thing about all of ArtPrize is all of the thought that went into it, before and along the way, with no signs of panic that it was going to go out of control, though at times it seemed it might. I appreciated the professionalism of the email communications, the quick responses I received to my questions or concerns. It felt like there must have been dozens on the ArtPrize committee working together, racking their brains, noting flaws and trends; then there was the effort of the community, those volunteers, and the venues who decided to take a risk. The people who attempted to go and see every piece in the project.

    The project’s idea is very clever and precarious, one bound to produce intensely important results; the openness ArtPrize has for further effort and criticism in each detail, linked together with an overall vision, is essential for success.

  48. Jordana Dickinson says:

    Mark, I am still going to paint what I love and what I am inspired by. For instance the piece I am working on now is what I was planning on for AP 2010 however, now that I see what viewers want to see at a competition I am going to make a larger version of it for Artprize only. I am not comprimising my art. If I were I would be abandoning my current piece. That is not the case. This is a unique competition. I say if you can’t beat them join them. Artprize has totally energized me. I have more ideas in my head than I have time to create now. It has been an inspiring event for me.

  49. dave vanos says:

    Mark, knowing my ranking wont dictate what I create (I’m the only one who decides what I’m going to build). This artprize was a complete shot in the dark for me, I had no idea what sort of sculpture people would enjoy the most. So I went with something that was scaled and painted very differently than the stuff I build and sell all year round. It was a shot in the dark… I’d like to know if it hit anything :) I agree with Jordana once again, at most the results will dictate the size/scale of what I build next year. Nothing outside my own skull is going to affect the actual content of my art. And there’s also that little thing called curiosity. I’m filthy curious. I feel as though I just ran in a marathon with hundreds of people and crossed the finished line while the judges were napping.

  50. Jordana Dickinson says:

    Thank you Dave, You Get it:)

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